Often times, I presented with a lot of data that I dont know what to do with it. I dislike the gentle reminder it feels patronizing to me. But I dont think Ive ever used it on top of an already asked question rather, it IS the question. Lots of possible transfers options for GW23. I have to admit Im looped in on a lot of emails that make me think, Uhhhh . The original poster sounds like an arrogant primadonna. It was perfect for the scenario because if someone shows you a proof and you dont follow it, you often dont have a question so much as you have a wuhhh? I always wondered if it was an expression I wasnt familiar with or what. if you wish. Need to go to the loo: Im just off to do the needful. We also have to remind ourselves that people from some cultures require *more* personal space than Americans do! The third is forward yet subduednot a bad option, honestly. It feels like a power play. Could be some weird cultural tick at my company, so its not like that everywhere. Do (b)not(/b) leave your belongings at the front desk. ****ATTENTION: These bases have minor defects and are sold as is. I own a small business called Archetype Origins LLC, I will send you an invoice if you prefer to pay with a credit/debit card (taxes may apply). It reads as abrupt to me. I guess Im being petty at this point but I think there are so many better ways to communicate with people. I tend to think that sometimes when we become sensitive to these types of things there are more issues at play. ", Textranch corrects my mistakes and tells me what is wrong in the sentence, and they responds quickly.". I was thinking this too. But if they are generally fine as coworkers, then youre better off not reading into how ever they phrase their emails. In mine, please advise is typically used when someones pretty irritated with you. Although Please advise can seem a bit blunt on its own, like most things it does depend on context and culture. In fact I just searched my emails for please advise and 99% of them (250 results since July/August-ish last year) were from this guy! I actually had a conversation with my boss about this last week. 3. It drives me REALLY batty. Input your text below. Agreed. Request you to note the dates and let us know the way forward. You could use for your client, but I don't feel it's needed for your in-company superior (unless you're in a big company and sending to executives). She could have wrote let me know if you have any questions and I wouldnt have been offended at all. Yes, just a little reminder at the end of the email that you cant proceed without input. Thanks, All afternoon we received hundreds of emails remove me from email list and please do not reply all. Senior c-suite exec was pissed and scheduled everyone who responded to that email for a session on email etiquette. I sometimes wish I could use 10-4 in emails (to mean recieved and understood). Did we actually want to purchase this item? https . So, I figured, maybe Im explaining this badly. Two women went shopping and they decided to buy a jacket. 0. I also like Would love your input for similar situations. You are incredibly annoying and childish. Would you have done something different? Like We had someone call from a company trying to sell us a bridge, so I took their name and number and told them someone from the bridge purchasing department would call them back. Like the President will be here presently? Im not religious and Im certainly not a Scientologist but the one thing they got right is that they insist that people know what a word means. I have ever heard Americans use the baby talk it is just 5 sleeps until we arrive at Disney World but I suppose they will pick it up since it is used so often by British travelers on line. Yeah, Ive messaged people to see if they were available for a phone call, but I would say, Can I call you? and make the call myself, instead of insisting they call me. Can I help anyone? versus Who was next? I have marked this listing as Complete. In American English, "prefer" is a little more formal but still common enough to use in everyday speech. Prefacing the word reminder with gentle or friendly is a feeble attempt to soften the blow. Now his bosses, they hated it. (I am a webmaster for many sites at my University, and a lot of times people from a department want me to do something to their site that is in conflict with ADA compliance/branding initiative/common sense, so if they dont take no for an answer when I explain why we cant do it that way, I bring in another person of influence, like my boss or someone in charge of university-level site compliance, or the persons own department chair, etc., and then explain the request, the problem with the request, and explain that Im trying to resolve the matter. Just kidding. Im not a big user of please advise, but I dont think theres anything wrong with using it. Please let me know which date and time would suits you best is the most popular phrase on the web. I dealt with a lot of rebate payments at old job and the reason certain accounts might be delinquent/unpaid was due to a variety of reasons such as items not qualifying, reporting problems, contract renegotiation so what I thought was due truly wasnt but I didnt have current documentation on hand, invoices making the report but some sort of tallying error causing a short pay, already paid but reported for the wrong customer, etc. Thank you.. time. Passive-aggressive or something. No. (We know people are not a statistic, so please let us know about any mistakes). OMG yes please do the needful makes me stabby. Please click the link that we've sent to this address to post your question to our experts.Ok, I'll check my email. I can literally count on one hand the number of times I have received a phone call without advanced notice from a colleague. Please let me know vs Please tell me. Like, if Im asking my manager a question, Id say Hey manager, this is the thing thats happening, what do you want me to do with that? but if I was emailing the CEO with a variety of other senior staff copied, Id say Here is the situation please advise. I could see how it might seem snotty when used in a situation that doesnt call for it, like youre being faux respectful. As it is, Im asking my recipient how they want me to reconcile the A and B that theyre asking for, not because Im blaming them or am throwing their request back into their court, but because I genuinely want to work together with them to find a feasible solution. Although to be honest, if Im sending my boss an FYI email I usually indicate that. (without going into details, many of my co-workers have 4 or 5 or more phone numbers). Serve the menfolk first? Some newbie staff members were constantly parking in that spot, which meant one of two things the midnight person had to use one of their breaks to move their car after that staff member left, or if that staff member forgot to move their car, they had to walk 500 metres in the dark to the staff carpark with no cameras at all. })(window, document); 2023 TextRanch, LLC. Im in grad school now and definitely retain the as brief as possible email ethos which some of my fellow students really do not, and I wonder if it comes off as abrupt (and Ive always been on the more prolix side of email writing, too!). I own a small business called Archetype Origins LLC, I will send you an invoice if you prefer to pay with a credit/debit card (taxes may apply). Every time I get an email that ends with please advise I want to send one back that says I advise you to stop ending your emails with please advise! That is the most annoying phrase ever! if you need. Friday, 1/28: 10am - 12pm EST; 2pm - 4pm EST. Thats what I use it for too! s.src = "https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; As a non-native speaker, I always have second thoughts about my expressions. Early in my job I would give people way, WAY more information than necessary in emails before I realized that this can be offensive and its almost always better to use the minimum information necessary for clarity (not that that is necessarily easy to determine, but as a goal). I hire people to know their jobs and make decisions. I then give background on my question. But they wont articulate any of those things you just have to guess. There's no difference in meaning, but the former is a bit formal and the latter is more common and informal in everyday speech. Its sort of a crowd control thing. If the question has been asked, I will answer it. Its quite amazing. I think we all just laughed and said, Theyll be OK, grandma. Otherwise, youd phrase it as a question or request, like, Id appreciate your input on this. In other contexts, obviously, the words are used more literally. I have used the kindly requesting bit. I have also heard children use sleeps, as in only 3 sleeps till my birthday.. It seems like, no matter what, there are phrases that really tick some people off. That way, I hope, people know why theyre on the email and if they need to respond back. One of the frequently used phrases was Please advice me further. ", Human who is reviewing my question not automated machine. if (w.addEventListener) { I wouldnt ever want to imply that Im telling my boss what to do. and the result is so good!! Im hoping you have more important things to worry about. Please advise, is much more concise than the alternative of listing all the options out. Most of the time its more junior staff and they dont realize the annoying-ness. That is why I asked the OP if there were more issues at play in this office. I used to think it was extremely formal and cold, but now it has no affect on me because it is used so freakin often. Thanks a lot for editors. plz advise. The following dates/times (EST) work for me: Monday, 1/24: 11am - 12pm EST; 2pm - 3pm EST. Its difficult to find delicate ways to follow-up with someone when youre unsure if somethings fallen off their radar or not. It really is the nude pump of email etiquette. I really dont think sleeps is a Britishism. In a perfect world, I wouldnt need it. versus Me too. . EmilyG, can you reboot the X server because it appears to be down and I need to work on Y. TIA! was reasonable enough. especially when the situations are complicated, and tbese are not people you are frequently emailing. It just seems more polite. Option 1 likely will result in this behavior but Option 2 will accomplish this.. She then said What parking procedure? I live in the south. This. For awhile, I used Ten-four! with another manager as kind of a joke to let her know I got a message, but it doesnt really work with everyone. And finally: you will be intimated, meaning you will be informed. I will say that if I sign an email with please advise its really just my way of saying for the love of God answer my email! Possibly in red Killer font. It would be considered very unusual for me to simply call someone, though. Can you please answer one of the 4 emails or 2 voicemails on this topic? And then there are of course the people who reply all to say, hey, it will be posted, stop asking and then the inevitable please remove me from this list.. I have the same problem. Id never used the phrase please advise at the end of an e-mail until Current Job. But saying recieved, or acknowledged seems cold and robotic and something like Got it! would work except that I dont want them to think Ive literally gotten the package. person: call me at (phone number) . + Read the full interview, I started to use TextRanch when I began to learn English. Am I being overly sensitive? Cant think of any examples right off the bat but it definitely doesnt fit for some emails! Such a pet peeve of mine! Thanks, If the person who sends you emails with this is in is known for being demanding and bratty, then you have a problem, and it isnt that they say please advise in their emails. If a client needs something, and a person in a cubicle at home office is holding up the matter, I have no problem using it succinctly, but nicely. 1) Using the royal we when clearly asking for a specific person in the group to help. Even when I would appreciate the complete info I am asking for much more than just any information. But I think I mean more did I explain that in a way that makes sense than are you smart enough to understand this. I think part of what gives it that differing connotation is who is essentially armed in the conversation. Also, I use it when responding to others who have requested info from me. Im surprised too. Shed been told about that by other staff, so I reminded her of that event, and then said, this is one reason the parking procedure was put in place. I often use it with my boss or MOR to get their advice i.e. Has Bob accepted yet? (Yes or no) Have you booked that hotel? (Yes or no) How do I save a word file (have you never used a computer before?). I picked up the doubt thing from a really awesome math professor I had in college who would ask does anyone have any doubts? after going over something on the board. I cant see it however the email had the comment. I would be happy to hear irritating, stupid stuff all day, if I was getting paid. Its *extremely* useful. Ill email her to call me. Yes, my grandmother who was born in the late 1800s as a young woman worked in the field all day and then at lunch break the men stretched out under a tree while she and other women served them lunch and then everyone went back to work. Balls in your court. It almost never registers. It only happens rarely, but every once in a while Im asked to email someone about something and I really have no idea what Im doing/what the end goal is, so I put please advise. No. Were not children here. Certain phrases set me off too. Exactly! Yeah, those are not please advise situations! All I can do it explain what the issue is and what our end need is, and ask them what our possible options are. Qualified Editors Native English experts for UK or US English. Sort it! You do not become a priority to him by making him your priority. In order to post your question we need your email to notify you when the response will be available. To contact us using our Shipt app: Tap the account icon.Mar 9, 2020 . If we didn't meet your expectations, we'd really like to know more. I dont feel bad about it one bit. She did not last very long in that job anyway. Its super formal feeling, but Im told that literally everything else will be misinterpreted by someone. No one is demanding that you stop holding up an important project more like, I would like to take my break today at 5 instead of 6. Then is it natural to say "Let me know when best suits you?" See a translation 1 like oldgeezer 17 Jul 2017 Plus I like telling people what to do. Maybe its location based but where I am at, people find my emails abrupt so I have to add the gentler language. Thats how I use it too. Battle #2: people who then reply all to say ZOMG!! And a section called the hazards of over thinking. ;)", So good. I usually say please advise when I am not sure what question I am asking. So dont do drugs. We have enjoyed serving you for the past five years. Ive worked in three different offices, and this phrase was used by nobody at two of them, and then by virtually everybody at the third one. })(window, document);Cookie Policy(function (w, d) { I know everyone has pet peeves, but for OP to think that its annoying and childish for using a phrase she doesnt like is a bit over the top. 3 likes. The Guardian. Another is when I get an email that contains only call me. From the Cambridge English Corpus His preferred option is theory of mind ability, which underpins processes of cultural learning and cultural accumulation and transmission. There are a handful of people at work who use this on every.single.email. Which one do you prefer? Ok, this is hilarious, because I used to this way today! Please Advise doesnt sound snarky or passive-agressive to me at all. 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